Airfix plastic models used to do a working kit of the James Watt beam engine when I was a kid, and if you search the US ebay site for plastic kits...they sometimes come up for sale.
look forward to your progress matey.
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Subject: Re: Josie Olsen Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:26 am
Nice one Damien
Just say, in case you wondered why no progress on my two builds, summer time is always busy doing all sorts of other stuff but come September time I will be back on with them and as you probably know my next build will be the Duchess of Fife Paddle Steamer.
I will be interested how you build the workings especially the paddle wheels good luck
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Subject: Re: Josie Olsen Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:47 am
Being 1960 plan with polystyrene yet to be thought of the plan calls for every thing in wood the hull is 3mm balsa covered in glass tissue. I printed the instructions off the CD but print is so small i can't read it with reading glasses and magnifying glasses I'll get them printed at 50% bigger lol.
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Subject: Re: Josie Olsen Mon Jun 15, 2015 10:07 am
We had some excitement at our lake yesterday when this appeared..
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Subject: Re: Josie Olsen Mon Jun 15, 2015 10:20 am
Send me the details of where and the pic and I'll put it on Paddleducks Aron it's a beauty.
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Subject: Re: Josie Olsen Mon Jun 15, 2015 11:25 am
I like that one too....there must have been as much work gone into the stage coach as there was in the little ferry........brilliant and very unusual.. top marks. neil.
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Subject: Re: Josie Olsen Tue Jun 16, 2015 1:14 am
It was taken at Millbrook lake (Sunday just gone) during our open day, owned by a member of the Plymouth MBC, not sure who owns it tho, i'll see if i can find out, I was rather busy sunbathing in the rescure boat that day
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Subject: Re: Josie Olsen Mon Jun 22, 2015 2:25 pm
The plan arrived today keel, bulkheads, gallows hull bottom and beam copied bit chilly for the shed days around 45 to 48F even the heater struggles
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Subject: Re: Josie Olsen Tue Jun 23, 2015 8:17 am
Keel & bulkheads and hull bottom printed keel cut to base line rough the rest, b/heads cut to half of printed centreline rough the rest ready for gluing to the balsa for b/heads and 6mm ply for the keel. Pic also shows the template for the wheels at 5" I think they'll just squeeze onto my little lathe to cut the rings and at top RHS the pattern for the engine beam.
Plus the Gallows.
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Subject: Re: Josie Olsen Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:43 pm
looking like a great start Damien, I think most of us forget its your winter season right now, down under, think it was last year my father inlaw said it was snowing near Perth.
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Subject: Re: Josie Olsen Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:49 pm
We're at 450metres above sea level with nothing tween us and the southern ocean southerly's straight of Antarctica we got snow year before last it's shaping up like we'll get it this year for sure.
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Subject: Re: Josie Olsen Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:34 am
I can see a beauty forming................go for it Damien.
I know it's cold over there matey........you'll just have to put yer thermals on........mid winter's day has passed so no excuses,
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Subject: Re: Josie Olsen Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:50 am
Wrong mid winter is 17 days away.
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Subject: Re: Josie Olsen Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:12 pm
thought it was june 21, like our midsummer solstice..........you got me confused now matey. .
.........all my years of teaching geography thrown out the window in one fell swoop,
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Subject: Re: Josie Olsen Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:59 pm
no idea I go by dates like the half way lol I looked it up it is the 21st June.
However the worst of the cold isn't here yet.
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Subject: Re: Josie Olsen Sun Jun 28, 2015 2:56 pm
what is the temp like in your part of the continent,,,,,,,,,
remember when i lived in Canberra the temps could get down as cold as -15 on very cold nights....
remember getting in my old MG one morning and reversing down the drive........only to go straight up the garden of a mate across the road and embed myself on his hardy winter plants.......the oil bath in my steering box had frozen and i could't turn the bloody wheel, lol.
with my old beemer in the background, and the bottom picture looking very smug for ourselves.......my mate scotty sat on his ducati 750ss.....we had just put new wheel bearings and brake drums on the mg...........funny thing was i had gone to a bearing place in Canberra asking for bearings for a 1951 mgtd.......nah mate he said..............so went home and took the bearings out and took them down for a match.......another guy measured them ........looked in his book.........ahh yes mate........1972 holden torana.......moral is...........never give up........something will always fit............and they did, lol
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Subject: Re: Josie Olsen Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:44 am
coldest so far -3.7c plenty of -1.7's and -1's we had an unusually cool summer I just knew it's be a cold winter so much for global warming better name would be global change which is part of the planets dynamic cycle.
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Subject: Re: Josie Olsen Fri Jul 10, 2015 11:20 am
I braved the cold shed to get balsa for bulkheads and beam & gallows. Tools req'd. Card patterns already made. Trusty scalpel with No 10 blade.
Assorted Balsa.
Bulkheads ready for assembly.
The Beam was very fiddly I decided on balsa as per plan as it's easier to work delicate cuts than polystyrene. Looking good so far a little and sanding bit of filler needed prior to a bath in polyester resin to make it solid.
Worked at my computer desk keyboard's is covered in balsa dust.
My present work area an A4 cutting board in front of monitor & keyboard.
The gallows assembled only needs the beam pivot mounts.
For sanding the smaller cutout curves a little strip of 120 wet&dry was super glued to half a shashlik stick 3.5mm dia.
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Subject: Re: Josie Olsen Sun Jul 12, 2015 9:09 pm
that really is lovely Damien.........I could never get such clean lines as that with balsa.
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Subject: Re: Josie Olsen Sun Jul 12, 2015 11:55 pm
Very Smart,
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Subject: Re: Josie Olsen Mon Jul 13, 2015 4:00 am
Thanks gents.
As I had the 1/4 balsa inside to mark out the keel around 11-30 last night thought what the heck and took to it with an 18mm snap off knife balsa took 5 passes on each section it was so firm the add on stem piece was needed as I added 12mm to depth of the keel in the hope the extra free-board will help her with the constant 100mm+ ripples/waves on Lake Wendouree even my non-paddle models have trouble with it.
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Subject: Re: Josie Olsen Mon Jul 13, 2015 9:38 am
I can see what you mean about the ripples on the lake, I just took a little google earth nosey around Lake Wendouree, it's a massive lake by the looks of it. (hope the link below works)
oh, could just imagine sitting at a bar bi q , playing with a boat and having a few cold tinnies straight from the esky................luvly jubbly.
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Subject: Re: Josie Olsen Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:31 am
Yeah that's it probably photo shopped to death Perhaps not or they would have deleted evidence of how chocked with weed it is weed is the reason i've gone to paddle boats in the hope paddle don't get clogged with weed like props do. Ahh pic taken on one of the few days a year with no wind usually they're mid winter we're 450m above sea level basically nothing of substantial height between us and southern ocean with daily wind speed average of 20 to 35kph Enough of the winge.
The lake hasn't changed much since the 2km rowing course was set up for the 1956 Olympics imagine for a minute 20+kph wind across 1km nth/sth or 2km east/west the waves that occur i'm not kidding
Probably why the only other modeller I've found in the Ballarat area drives 60km to sail with Geelong model boat club.
Wheel discs & rings marked out whilst I ponder centre diameter and brass or aluminium.
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Subject: Re: Josie Olsen Sun Jul 19, 2015 4:03 am
Skeleton together.
I've been banned from the lounge/pooter room for model making after the fumes from the super glue gave my other half a migraine, I can only hope for warmer weather soon after a -5.7c last night.
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Subject: Re: Josie Olsen Sun Jul 19, 2015 10:16 am
Coming along Damien I suppose you could say you have the bare bones there
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Subject: Re: Josie Olsen Sun Jul 19, 2015 10:41 am
I really need shed time/time away from ebay or i'll go broke
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Subject: Re: Josie Olsen Sun Jul 19, 2015 10:45 am
I've been banned from the lounge/pooter room for model making after the fumes from the super glue gave my other half a migraine, I can only hope for warmer weather soon after a -5.7c last night.
I know the feeling mate..........but what finally got her goat was me doing the spray painting in the kitchen and us having to eat meals off lifeboat blue plates,.....that was the end of a beautiful relationship,
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Subject: Re: Josie Olsen Sun Jul 19, 2015 10:49 am
Now that's self inflicted Neil
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Subject: Re: Josie Olsen Fri Jul 24, 2015 7:10 am
I've struck a snag bulkhead 2 on the plan is 2.5mm small in width each side, I'll cut some 2.5mm x 3mm balsa across the grain and pin & glue it in place.
I checked and re-checked the card pattern against the plan and the glued in place bulkhead all the same and the inward dip in the outline looks really out of place I seriously doubt it is supposed to be there.
Damien.
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Subject: Re: Josie Olsen Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:35 pm
Spring has sprung while warmer 14c spring will be wet we're told I can handle that with a jacket. Back to the hull and found the frames are fine I'd forced the top rail to the stem when it should have been B1 as B1b to stem is block balsa, the rail fits perfectly. Some 1/16 strips added to the top of a few of the bulkheads that didn't reach the of the keel board. All parts for the engine build on hand, and mods to my lathe done it will spin 6" now ready to start the wheels.
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Subject: Re: Josie Olsen Mon Sep 14, 2015 2:43 pm
Cut the paddle rings on my lathe today a little cleaning up and they'll be fine .
4 pieces marked with compass as per plan centre drilled 4.5mm and reamed fo close fit on 5mm bolt fender washers both sides and nylock nut.
A 3mm backing was needed to stop the polystyrene warping.
All turned out nicely only a little trimming needed.
This pic shows the same 4 wheel stack in my cordless drill a power drill spins a lot faster.
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Subject: Re: Josie Olsen Sat Sep 26, 2015 1:31 pm
Rings trimmed, spokes cut and blades/buckets cut to size yesterday Looking at the plan this morning I was 24-18mm x 20mm buckets short this Guillotine has made cutting polystyrene so easy.
Also started on the wheel centres 2 off 7mm x 21mm brass only broken 2 x 1mm drills so far.
Day off tomorrow Going with my neighbour to watch his son and grandsons at an local car clubs Autocross event. I miss my days of competition. Oh well age & decrepitness of body happens.
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Subject: Re: Josie Olsen Tue Oct 13, 2015 6:34 am
Progress wheel Jig made.
A 2.5mm hole made with drill press in some excess chip board a section of the 3mm spindle was driven in place with the drill press to assure 90% to the wheels.
The 3 rim parts 2 rings and centre were held in place whilst using a marker to show position of 1mm holes for 1mm stainless pins seen the pics all 4 rims will be exactly the same.
The brass centre will have a 12mm x 1.5mm Dia pin each end at 90 deg's to capture the the centres to avoid any slippage and also drilled and tapped 3mm for grub screws, this first one is not fully machined as yet.
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Subject: Re: Josie Olsen Sat Oct 31, 2015 8:23 am
I found the 48 floats were 1mm too wide took to them with emery board and vernier to check progress bit over an hour fixed them.
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Subject: Re: Josie Olsen Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:46 am
Two months and hardly been in the shed. While building a base for my chrissy present from my son it hit me like a pile of bricks, unfamiliar terminology on the plan and in 50yrs of modelling I have never planked a hull and the the thought of stuffing it up scares the hell out of me!! Now I know it's bothering me I will overcome it.
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Subject: Re: Josie Olsen Mon Jan 04, 2016 7:37 am
I know what you mean Damien, My Eileen needs planking to the hull also and I keep looking at it and thinking, shall I, but avoid it and find something else to do. Like you will do, I will bite the bullet and have a go, we owe it to ourselves to do it
When I look back and see what I have achieved already in my short time building model boats I am amazed at how resourceful we can be when we try, just look back at what you have done over your time modelling and be amazed, good luck, just have a go
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Subject: Re: Josie Olsen Mon Jan 04, 2016 7:42 am
I hear you Paul
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Subject: Re: Josie Olsen Fri Jan 22, 2016 9:12 am
Seems I had a larger problem than planking haven't had Claustrophobia for years, I've had to put most of the bits drawers and unused tools away to clear the bench it did the trick back to Josie today on with drama the Deck level planks planks didn't want to bend. Any tip's for softening without steam. Would hot water do? I guess it'd speed the super glue drying.
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Subject: Re: Josie Olsen Fri Jan 22, 2016 11:25 am
Damien
I always use hot water not steam. I fill a thermos jug with boiling water and stick the planks in that. Its usually only part of the plank that needs softening. It the whole plank does then you will need a suitable tray to hold them. Using the jug means I can reseal it between planks and that keeps it hotter and saves frequent trips back to the kitchen I also use plank 'nippers' if its really hard to get the shape, but they do deform the planks.
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Subject: Re: Josie Olsen Fri Jan 22, 2016 11:55 am
Thanks Barrie I have some 40mm PVC pipe Long enough just need an end cap how long do you soak them for?
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Subject: Re: Josie Olsen Fri Jan 22, 2016 11:58 am
Depends on the wood About 5 - 10 minutes is usually enough.
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Subject: Re: Josie Olsen Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:30 am
barriew wrote:
I also use plank 'nippers'
Barrie, I'm not familiar with these, can you explain please.